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  What is the best question to ask a witness

  by ImFreeatlast in

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  lets have a free for all .

  i would say why dont you have a book study anymore but that one is done to death... we had a witness recently and i asked for the latest jw only mag (he didn't realise i used to be in his cong... have i done that good a job at fading?

  ) it was a laugh to see the two of them struggle to come up with an answer.... ok lets here the best you can come up with, there has to be some better than mine, what question will leave them stuck for an answer...... .

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  When the ransom was paid at the time when Jesus died and was resurrected, why didn't Jehovah fulfill his part of the deal and take away the problems and anxieties of the world then? It's already been close to 2000 years now and we are still waiting.

  Any person not viewed as fulfilling his portion of a deal as agreed or promised would be deemed as dishonest. Jehovah isn't dishonest, is He?

  If there was a hostage situation and the ransom was paid, how long does it take for the both parties to get and do what they "promised"?

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  The Watchtower----A Book Publishing Company???

  by minimus in

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  sure they publish books and they used to do that quite a bit.

  but now, i wouldn't primarily call it a "book publishing company".

  they charge nothing for the literature.

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  Social circle for many.

  Some power starved men looking for recognition and a title. This starts from the teenage years for males in the JWs.

  For others it provides some hope for the future or for the dilemma that they are in.

  Business corporation.

  Alligator Wisom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Overcoming deep depression....success stories??

  by oompa in

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  guys, for those who know me here, i apologize in advance for being such troublesome pain in the ass.

  i have had some scary low spots these past two years, and was imo on way too many meds.

  i really had a death wish for awhile, and do not want to revist that feeling.

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  1) Go natural in your diet and eliminate any toxic junk being sold cheaply that you may be consuming. That manufactured stuff doesn't help at all no matter how a person may argue otherwise about it. Sure it tastes great. Great enough to make people addicted to it. Yes, fast food and junk snacks are big business and will hook people. They sure aren't thinking of your health, mental or otherwise. Only your cash. Supply your body with serotonin as it helps with your mood. And lay off the alcohol. Try it!

  2) Some exercise. Try walking, a leisure bicycle ride in the neighborhood or simple stretching. Try to release the natural endorphines your brain produces. You will be amazed on how the body will adapt to physical resistance in this form and will make you feel great physically, mentally and emotionally. The human body was made/created/or evolved to MOVE. Sooner or later you will find yourself needing to exercise and that your stamina will increase. When I was down and depressed, I could only swim 100 meters in a pool without stopping. Now, I can swim 2,000 meters without stopping. Some physical activity lifts our mood. Try it!

  3) Therapy in the form of professional counseling. Let them help you help yourself. You need to be informed. That is why you even came to this board and posted a thread about your dilemma.

  4) Music you love.

  5) Comedy you need.

  6) People (family or friends) to listen and support and to love you. Hey, it sounds like many here on JWD!! Ah, that's why you're here. Great!

  7) Books on depression gives some insight, but don't overwhelm yourself with them. Books on cognitive therapy are helpful. Self affirmation works too.

  8) Meds if needed, but don't depend on them forever. They are there to use so you can try to stabilze. I tried Paxil for a year. I didn't like the side effects. Each person's body chemistry will react differently than what the doctor thinks or prescribes. Try to give yourself a reasonable limit, both in the amount of medication and the length of time you will be taking them. You don't want to be a walking zombie-like chemistry lab.

  9) You are what you think. Thoughts are actions rehearsed.

  Oompa, get better. We appreciate who you are and you contribute so much to the JWD community. Power to you!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Add something to the FLEA MARKET JW Memory collectibles

  by journey-on in

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  if the wts and jws were to dissolve, i'm sure many of us would have mixed emotions....elation that a destructive.

  cult has finally lost its hold....joy at seeing family members embracing us as people once again...etc.. having been raised in it, i have so many little memories that have come to be like little collectibles on a shelf.. i'll give you one.

  if anybody else remember these, i'll be surprised.

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  I was actually embarrased that the mail man knew we were witnesses.

  Yeah. I started to get that feeling just as I was beginning to go to junior high school.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Add something to the FLEA MARKET JW Memory collectibles

  by journey-on in

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  if the wts and jws were to dissolve, i'm sure many of us would have mixed emotions....elation that a destructive.

  cult has finally lost its hold....joy at seeing family members embracing us as people once again...etc.. having been raised in it, i have so many little memories that have come to be like little collectibles on a shelf.. i'll give you one.

  if anybody else remember these, i'll be surprised.

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  Magazine subscriptions that came in the mail with those brown wrappers with your name and address printed in dot matrix form.

  Just being a child and receiving anything in the mail addressed to me personally was quite a self-confidence booster. But that got dry and tired just before I reached junior high school.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Real Good News

  by superman in

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  this must be a sign of what will lie ahead for the j-dubs (at least in the united states).

  this last weekend at the special day circuit assembly i went to, not a single person got baptized (zero, zip, nada) and the funny part was that they still had to give the baptism talk because it was already in the program schedule.

  hopefully people are starting to catch on and we'll have a few more "zero baptism" assemblies.

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  I've experienced this before. It was at a circuit assembly about five years ago with about 1,200 in attendance.

  It was extremely odd during my decades of being a JW. The speaker actually said at the end of his talk, "We don't have any baptismal candidates", and he walked off stage concluding his part since there wasn't any need to ask the two questions. Then came the the strange part. Everyone clapped.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exertng Vigorously)
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  Women Telling the Good News are a Large Army - Comparing Bible Translations

  by ataloa in

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  2. bible

  years ago when studying for meetings, i used several different translations so i could make a comparison.

  i could never find anything to support that one verse.

  does anyone have any information on how they arrived at that?

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  Does anyone have any information on how they arrived at that?

  Psalm 68:11 in the NWT

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  Who CONFIRMED the BIG announcement about the Book Study?

  by Alligator Wisdom in

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  this seems to be the topic of the week, if not this year.. out of the many points and countless threads about this topic, many have been speculative and of the reminiscing sort.

  i was wondering how many confirmations we have about this.

  there were only a few that sounded like confirmations that i found posted on this site.

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  Thanks all for your replies and especially for the ones sharing their confirmation stories.

  It does seem like this so-called rumor is true.

  I did my part and mentioned about a BIG announcement to my PO. Although I didn't mention the fine details in order not to throw up too many red flags, I did say that I heard about a major organizational restructuring program that will start next hear to simplify the needs of everyone. I also said that this announcement wouldn't never been imagined by JWs, especially long-timers in the organization.

  He was surprised that I knew that much. Also a little disturbed. He confirmed what I said and told me that this is strictly confidential and that even the elder body in my congregation didn't know of this change.....yet. He also told me that in order to avoid unneccessary confusion, I ought to keep to the direction of it being confidential.

  "Confidential?", I said with a smile.

  I left it at that.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  Why did Abel offer "fatty pieces" to Yahweh?

  by easyreader1970 in

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  2. bible

  from my understanding--at least from my instruction from the wbts--humans were not permitted to eat meat by yahweh until after the flood.

  if that is true, then why would abel offer tasty, delicious "fatty pieces" to yahweh?

  how would abel even know how to cut up an animal for food and know which parts were the best for eating?.

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  1) What about all those ancient, even prehistoric, images in caves of people killing/hunting mammoths, deer and other free roaming animals?

  Some of these date way beyond the flood, since mammoths existed prior to the global flood of the Bible. It wasn't just for skin/fur and bones for tools. Meat was eaten.

  2) Why then did Jehovah command Noah and his family to not eat blood with the flesh?

  Genesis 9:3-4, And every thing that moveth and liveth shall be meat for you: even as the green herbs have I delivered them all to you: 4Saving that flesh with blood you shall not eat. (DRC)

  Perhaps, they were already eating both blood and flesh. No one can show that they didn't already eat blood before the deluge or during the one year in the Arch; likewise, no one can show that they did. Except! There is no law without a reason! Those who disagree should try to answer the following: why did God make the Israelites divide animals into clean and unclean?For the sake of eating naturally. The division of clean and unclean animals that Noah obviously was aware of — had nothing to do with some animals being cleaner or dirtier than other animals – it was not because some animals took more baths than others.
  
  The only explanation for the distinction Noah was aware of — is the motivation for eating them! Jehovah didn’t have to teach him which were clean or unclean when he spoke about that subject; Noah already knew this perhaps from prior personal or ancestor-given revelations. Why would he have need for such knowledge if he didn't eat meat?

  3) But after Adam & Eve sinned, Bible readers know that God cursed the ground of the earth. In Gen 3:17-19, we see,

  . . . cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. (KJV)

  The garden of Eden diet included bread, "seed-bearing herb sowing seed", and "every tree which has in itself the fruit of seed." Once the ground had been cursed, it had an immediate effect on their diet. Human nature being what it is, the following question is natural: Is it then in accord with human nature to fight with a ground that doesn't produce food and for a person to go hungry when a fat chicken is within reach, perhaps walking right by? There is really no point to the question. It's simply against human nature not to go for such a chicken in best KFC style. The old Charlie Chaplin movie proved that point, when Charlie even started believing his friend was a chicken!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  Who CONFIRMED the BIG announcement about the Book Study?

  by Alligator Wisdom in

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  this seems to be the topic of the week, if not this year.. out of the many points and countless threads about this topic, many have been speculative and of the reminiscing sort.

  i was wondering how many confirmations we have about this.

  there were only a few that sounded like confirmations that i found posted on this site.

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  It hasn't showed up yet!!!!!!!!!!!

  You should have it. I sent it.

  Thanks for your contribution to this site.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)